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The concept of non-duality and there not being a separate ego has become mainstream in recent times.  It has been popularized by great thinkers such as Eckhart Tolle, Chopra Oprah, and the like.  I do get it – yes, we are not our physical bodies or our current avatar or identity.  We are souls.  We are consciousness.  Brangelina was never real in multiple ways.

Buddhism’s Four Noble Truths and the application of our own common sense tell us that attachment and desire are the root of all suffering.  It’s an oxymoron to expect permanent and complete internal happiness from ever-changing or temporary external sources.  If we can detach ourselves from the illusory outside temptations around us, and look to our inner selves for happiness instead, we may finally find it.

I can visualize a heavenly state where all of our human bodies have dissolved, and we are free to unite – a place where everyone’s soul would mingle together until we are all one big ball of light and harmony.  There would be no barriers or genders or age or cellulite or You and I.

Those who have had near-death experiences come back and tell us how bright and loving the energy was on the other side, how badly they wanted to remain a part of it, before they were told that it was not yet time, and they must come back to Earth to finish their journey first.

It seems logical that once human bodies and identities disintegrate, then hate, jealousy, wars, and loneliness would naturally disappear as well.  What would be left would be a powerful, irresistible joining of all our energies into one blinding source of love and happiness.

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All of this makes complete sense to me.  And it’s what has been imparted by Buddhism, Hinduism, and many other great religions and teachers.  I don’t find anything dogmatic about it, an objective examination of these concepts renders them believable – provided that souls do exist.

But here is where I get incredibly confused:  What then?  What happens once we are only consciousness, when we’ve managed to release ourselves from the temptations of the world and forever-after exist on a celestial plane where our minds stay blank and steady?  Are we supposed to remain catatonic for eternity?  Are we never again to anticipate any activity or challenge?

Meditation is traditionally thought to be a worthy state to pursue, a tool to bring us closer to nirvana.  The blanker the mind, the better.

But how many of us can imagine sitting in a meditative-like state for billions of years, doing or feeling nothing?  Sure, meditation is great for a small stretch of time, one that might even last days or weeks if you’re a monk.  There is no doubt that it IS a powerful tool in calming us down, making us more focused, and helping us to breathe.  But at some point we can’t keep suppressing our curious and active intellects, or our free will, neither of which is passive or inanimate.  We are not rocks.  We are not mountains.  We are sentient beings that feel and think.  How is it natural to strive for a state of being that resembles meditation, or a lobotomy, as our ultimate destination?  Even if there is a blissful feeling of love when we get there, it’s just one constant emotion with no change or challenge.  Like an infinite zombie orgy.  What would be the point of the Universe giving us the ability to make decisions with our thinking minds, but then expecting us to not use it in order to be truly happy?  It seems contradictory to our nature to strive to reach a “nirvana” where the goal is to suppress our innate, energetic qualities.

Note that I’m not questioning our time here on Earth, in our current avatars.  The guidance we get from the Swamijis in my Hindu community is to detach and meditate, but to also serve mankind through acts of volunteering and charity.  It’s a concept called seva, or service.  I wholeheartedly believe in it, and welcome it.  It’s a great solution to the aforementioned conundrum – detach from the rat race and roller coaster of life to obtain more internal happiness, but keep yourself busy by teaching and serving others.  It’s not something I would want to do for eternity – be reborn again and again as a human or physical body but strive to remain detached from it while I serve others.  The temptation of sensory pleasures and self-gratification when stuck in a single body might be too hard to resist each time.  It’s also very lonely.  But I think it’s a great interim solution while waiting to pass on and obtain eternal bliss in the afterlife.  That and bingeing YouTube videos.

My main problem is that I find it difficult to reconcile what supposedly happens once I am no longer being born into a physical body.  I don’t understand what one is supposed to do with an intelligent consciousness and active free will then?  If there is no one to serve and nothing to occupy us, how will we exist without becoming restless?  Does the bright light and love that people experience during near-death involve the extinguishment of any separate thoughts or abilities?

Perhaps it does.  Perhaps when we get there, the bliss we experience is like the deep sleep we fall into when we go to bed every night.  I would love to sleep for eternity and never wake up again.  Since I’m single with no kids, I’m mostly napping in my current life anyway – my brothers accuse me of being a cat, always wanting to stretch out where I can, preferably near a fireplace.  I would love to be in a permanent state of sleep, I have no desire to keep this free will I’ve been “gifted”.

Frankly, I think that free will is overrated.  I’d like to return it, please, and be a table in my next life, or perhaps a cookie.  But somehow I doubt that’s possible, I doubt that’s what bliss or nirvana is really like.  The very nature of our sentient beings is free will and consciousness.  That is what distinguishes us from the inert objects around us.  It seems illogical that the act of enlightenment means getting rid of our core essence completely. Why would we have been given it in the first place if the goal was simply to obliterate it?

This is why I am so confused, I just can’t seem to resolve the contradiction.  It feels like we can’t win either way.  As the Four Noble Truths state, being attached to the ups and downs of life is a surefire way to experience anxiety and unhappiness.  Desire does seem to be the root of all suffering. But being detached from everything might breed boredom or a suppression of our innate intellectual, sentient, and free-willed natures.  Which way are we supposed to go?

I haven’t seen anyone else talking about this before.  It seems as if everyone is stuck on the first step of spiritual awakening – a dawning realization of the illusory nature of our egos and the discovery of consciousness.  It’s a concept that has been in the East for centuries, but it’s just now made its way to the West and tickled the fancies of those who’ve newly understood it.  And the comfort of that knowledge is enough of a cosmic blanket to keep us warm – we don’t dig further.  Sadly, in between snoozing and surfing, I have plenty of time to use my shovel.  And I can’t help but have a discomforting feeling that the popular perception of consciousness, free will, and nirvana all contradict each other.  Apologies for being the one to point out that the Emperor has no Clothes.  I wonder if anyone else can see it? 

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WE are a divine unit of consciousness, Soul. Created by the Creator from the essence of Itself. So we have all the attributes of God within us. Earth is like a school, we are here to learn. Each lifetime we move "up" a "grade" but not always because if we screw up badly we simply have to repeat the grades over and over until we get it. We do have freedom of choice. Our purpose, over our many many human lives (thousands) is to ultimately recognize and manifest these divine qualities. To become God realized beings, like Jesus, Buddha etc.

How many of you think more clearly once you’ve had your morning coffee?  (Raise your hand.)

How many of you have experienced some type of sugar high that caused you to feel happier or more productive?  (I have ten arms raised.)

How many of you have taken drugs sometime in the past and gotten high in general?  (I don’t really want to know.)

My point here is that food, drinks, and chemicals have the tremendous ability to affect our moods and thoughts in a way that we normally don’t question.  It’s common knowledge and taken for granted.  But if you stop to think about it – isn’t the SELF that we refer to – our CONSCIOUSNESS – our SOUL – that which helps us think and feel?  Isn’t our SELF supposed to be the part of our being that determines whether we are happy or sad, whether we’re motivated or feeling blah, whether we choose to zig instead of zag?

Most of us believe that we are not simply our physical bodies or even our brains.  We are not just biological robots, there seems to be a sentient force inside of us that is separate from the exterior.

When the Soul gets Lost in Science

But if that is true, how is it possible that our intangible self is subject to hallucinations or even violent thoughts after taking tangible items like drugs?  How is it that our moods can be manipulated by something as mundane as caffeine or sugar?  Why is my grouchy self a mushy lovebug after imbibing the right drink?

There is an anti-depressant called Abilify that can cause a person to impulsively and addictively gamble, eat, shop, or have sex.  As a financial planner, I was stunned to learn that a formerly money savvy client had gotten into extreme credit card debt after starting this medication.  I did not realize that something as elementary as a drug could cause one to involuntarily indulge in such specific behaviors for which one had little predisposition initially.  But Abilify and similar drugs have the scary ability to increase dopamine in the brain which in turn magnifies or stimulates its motivation and reward receptors, causing impulsive and extreme behaviors.  It appears it’s not a long slide from Abilify to Addictify!

ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE SELF
In The Man Who Wasn’t There – Tales from the Edge of the Self, an award winning book by science journalist Anil Ananthaswamy, the changing or disassociation of self with the body or societal norms is described through disorders like schizophrenia, autism, dementia, and epilepsy.  The book’s main purpose is to examine the concept of self and how it changes or even seems to disappear when certain biological or chemical factors affect the body and mind.  For example, he talks about Cotard’s syndrome (also called Walking Corpse), a rare and baffling condition where the afflicted feels he or she is already dead.  They believe that they no longer exist, and they are often severely depressed or disturbed as a result.

Mr. Ananthaswamy makes a distinction between the BODY Self and NARRATIVE Self.  The Body Self would be one where the person is associating themselves with their physical body, and the Narrative Self involves one’s memories or identity or more cognitive variables.  The Body Self would be affected by a disorder like Cotard’s and the Narrative Self would be impacted by something like Alzheimer’s.  The Narrative Self might also be disturbed through schizophrenia, where ideas that arise in one’s mind as part of the normal thinking process are thought to be separate and distinct, as if third-party voices are talking instead.  This leads to paranoia and the person feeling that they are being controlled by someone else.  When in reality, the issue is that they are simply not recognizing themselves as the creator or narrator of their own thoughts. 

(I always have my Tiger Mom’s voice in my head, controlling my actions, but I believe that’s another disorder discussion for another day.)

Mr. Ananthaswamy shows how some people can have their Body Self affected, but not their Narrative Self, or vice-versa.  The interesting takeaway is that biological and chemical disturbances can cause the loss of what we call the self in numerous ways.

The Man Who Wasn’t There is an illuminating read for those who have ever wondered how connected consciousness might be to the body and brain.  For me, it was compelling support for the possibility that there is no separate soul or self, that we are just complex configurations of neurons and protons and croutons, and our decisions or personalities are merely constructs of our biology and nothing more.

ARGUMENTS FOR THE SELF
Of course, there are always situations where the river flows the other way, i.e. the self seems to be directing the body instead of the body controlling the self.  There have been studies done on monks who are able to slow down their breathing rate to shocking low levels through meditation.  The Guinness record for longest time to hold one’s breath is 22 minutes.  Athletes constantly use willpower to push through blinding pain and perform astonishing feats.  There have even been reports of mothers being able to lift a car off their child through sheer determination and force of love.  And of course there have been reports of near-death experiences where the brain was declared clinically dead but the patient was later able to report the events that occurred during that time.

For this and other reasons there is also a part of me that simply can’t shake the idea of a ME or a FREE WILL that is separate from the physical body or any food, drink, or disease.  It’s the ME that I deem responsible for all of my moral choices. I am not able to understand those who argue against free will and imply that a criminal may be just an artificially programmed human lemon and not wholly accountable for his crimes.  That’s just too hard to swallow.

I believe this SELF is the one that still exists even if the Body Self or Narrative Self is affected.  And I believe it can be summed up in one word – INTENTION.  In addition to the Body Self and Narrative Self, I would argue that there is something called the Intention Self, the one that has to do with our ethics and intended choices.  And if there is an intelligent or planned design to the Universe, then I believe it would be the INTENTION Self that really counts in the end.

I liken the cosmic courts to the ones we have here on Earth.  If a person is not capable of determining their own actions, if they did not know what they were doing when they committed a crime because they were fully or partly insane, I would think that the universe would not hold that soul accountable. Their negative actions would not count against their positive karmic credit score.

So for someone suffering from dementia who accidentally lights a house on fire, that would obviously be different from the actions of an arsonist who wants to expressly cause damage.  Both in this world, and the one after.  Taking it to a subtle degree further, if the person suffering from dementia is also grouchy and selfish and does nothing to help others, perhaps that doesn’t count against them either, as long as the prickly personality is due to involuntary reasons beyond their control.  (Yes ladies, hopefully this includes crying and yelling from PMS and menopause!)  It would only count when someone’s deliberate negative intentions give rise to their negative actions.

This would potentially mean that differences in our behavior due to environment, culture, biology, or upbringing would not be weighed on the cosmic scales of justice.  What would be measured is how we played the cards we were dealt to the best of our rational ability.  In cases of patients with Cotard’s or dementia or multiple personalities due to child abuse, there may not be much Intention Self left if the Body and Narrative Self are completely distorted, but whatever lucid part remains, and is operating from a place of free will and ethics, is what might ultimately get judged.  Theoretically.

CONVOLUTED CONCLUSIONS
It’s a stretch I know, to hypothesize all of this.  The theist in me can’t let go of the idea of an Intention Self, but the atheist in me starts kicking in once things become too convoluted.  It seems extremely unnecessary for the universe to create any kind of self distortion in the first place – mental or physical – if the goal of a sentient being is to right their karmic wrongs and achieve enlightenment.  What point is there to put obstacles such as schizophrenia in the way, and inflict such suffering on the unaware, if its not serving any existential purpose?  How are simple things like food and drink and drugs so able to manipulate us?  Why am I nicer to people after a Reese’s?

I don’t know.  Oftentimes I think the stories we try to weave to explain an “intelligent design” are too far-fetched to be true.  If things don’t make sense, maybe the most obvious reason is because there is no logic – it’s all random.  Sometimes the simplest answer is the one that is real.  So perhaps the atheists and scientists are right – it’s our biology and chemistry that controls and makes us.  Maybe there simply ISN’T a conscious self.  As we can see, science certainly has given us enough reasons to at least CONSIDER this a possibility.

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The Human brain certainly has the power to wonder !! So sad that some people are willing to shut down their instinctive ability to look for real, genuine answers and to favour a 'God delusion' which is an embarrassing joke given what we really, really, really DO know in 2021 !!

Soul= Mind, Will and Emotions. Outside stimulants can effect the soul. the Spirit of Man can only be inhabited by Jehovah God or satan, one or the other not both. Jehovah can help you control your soul for good, satan will use your soul to destroy you and others.

Fasting creates a higher focus...not on when is the next meal

If the brain were simple enough to understand itself, it couldn’t.

More complex than anyone can imagine. Pithy answers don't touch the issue.

No soul. Not robots. 😊

what about music for soul ?

Cells are the most evolved. They have been here from the beginning. And they form all the life that can be observed. It should be clear that we are cellular robots. It is the cells that decide whether we live or not, depending on how we treat them. For me the Ego is simply the memory recorded by the authority, something as sad as the memory that a turkey has when they put the hose to extract the foi-grass.

No soul. No spirit. The mind is the emergent property of the brain. Consciousness is the emergent property of the mind. There is no ghost in the machine. There is no god watching from a dimension outside of space and time. We are utterly alone in an infinite cosmos. We were not intended and we have no meaning other than that which we give ourselves. Each one of us will die and when we are dead we will no longer have consciousness. We will be just as we were before we were born: nowhere. We have but this one fleeting moment on this spinning blue ball... so let's dance and sing and make love and smell the flowers and hug the trees and pet the animals and hold the babies and kiss our loved ones and bring joy to everything that we do and be happy together while we still can.

The only thing wrong with the human brain is the introduction of some fairy tale god. We evolved folks, end of story.

Did God create Humans or did humans create God because it explains what we don't know?

We do not have a soul, we are a soul-simply means -air breathing

Affirmative.

imo we might be robots... the first AI being created according to the Genesis in Bible... but no problem, we are allowed to dream of free will 😉

In Darwin’s book The Descent of Man, he famously claimed many of our anatomical features to be useless including the muscles of the ear, the tailbone, body hair, and the fold in the corner of our eye.  People generally think of goosebumps, male nipples, and the appendix as also being unnecessary to our existence.  They are often referred to as “vestigial organs”, which were once thought to be useful for survival, but are now mostly or completely non-functional.  Kind of like advanced calculus.

To Darwin, this was strong evidence that man had evolved from primitive ancestors.  He theorized that over time, many vestigial organs or appendages began shrinking as they were used less and less.  For example, the tailbone is thought to have once been a longer tail used by our ancestors for everyday tasks and survival.  Having shrunk over time as we began relying more on the use of our hands, the tailbone now forms a tiny bump in our spines.  (Personally I’m glad, that’s one less body part to tone at the gym.  I have enough flabby appendages already.)

On the other side it is thought that when an organ or physical part is needed or nourished, it grows instead.  Humans may have grown taller in past centuries because we paid more attention to nutrition and medical cures, and because height gave humans a strength and power advantage over those possibly weaker.  As we all know, Darwin’s theory of survival of the fittest postulated that those who were stronger or more genetically advantaged were likelier to survive.

Darwin Figures of Evolution to Angel

Darwin’s theory has always appealed to me as a logical explanation for how we evolve.  It just makes alot of sense and of course it’s pretty much accepted science.  And being agnostic for the most part, I’ve never been able to fully believe the idea of a God created universe.  I normally need proof of a concept before I can consider it.  In the war between Creationists and Evolutionists I take the side of our ancestors being hairy apes.

Despite my bias towards science, I often wonder if Darwin’s theory is in fact, compatible, with Eastern spiritual beliefs.

(Warning: the following is more my whimsical musings than logic, so if you are an eye-roller, feel free to jump out now or snort your way through the rest of the article.   I won’t be offended.  I eye-rolled my way through my teenage years.)

Eastern philosophy does not talk about Creationism in detail and where we came from, but rather seems more focused on the concept of moksha, or where we go next once we are liberated from reincarnation, or the cycle of rebirth.  It is thought that humans were born into their current bodies because we had an attachment to sensory pleasures. Our desires caused us to manifest into physical forms which would enable us to experience these pleasures.  (I’m pretty sure I exist because of foot rubs and pie.)

According to Eastern philosophy, human bodies and the material life are viewed as flawed and temporary, subject to the cruelties of time and old age.  Living as a decaying human form in a suffering filled material world is not considered “survival” but rather a state to escape.

It is believed that we have the power to outgrow our attachment to the sense body.  Once the soul desires moksha or release from the cycle of rebirth, it can eventually shed its physical form and simply continue as energy.  It can be united with other energies in the universe and ride off into the sunset, having achieved eternal existence and survival in the non-temporary, non-changing form of the soul.

It often appears to me that this philosophy fits right into Darwin’s Theory of Evolution and Survival of the Fittest.  If a soul begins to place more importance on its inner energy and consciousness, and less on its external physical form, then it seems plausible that eventually the body will be shed because it is no longer needed, just like the vestigial organs we no longer use.  Like the appendix, tailbone, or other useless appendages, the ENTIRE human form becomes unnecessary for survival.  You heard that right, perhaps in the end we’re all just giant, walking, redundant male nipples!

Perhaps it can also be said that the eternal soul, if it truly exists, is inherently more successful in survival than a temporary, vulnerable physical form which can be injured and has a guaranteed death in every lifetime.  It seems that survival of the fittest would apply to the soul triumphing over the body.

I wonder – is it possible that we can evolve to the point where our temporary, fragile bodies are no longer of concern to us, and we can shed the unwanted, no longer useful super-organ once we stop giving it so much importance?

And is it possible . . . (drumroll, not eye-roll) . . . that Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is not contradictory to the idea of Enlightenment but instead, a fitting description of what happens on our final spiritual journey?

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You've missed one huge and basic point in Darwins theory of evolution. Evolution is said to take place by survival and subsequent passing on of any beneficial adaptations to our offspring. How would the soul achieve any of this in order to evolve The soul you've described would not be subject to any enforced selective process. People getting taller over recent times is a consequence of better environmental conditions and better health not evolution To evolve being taller we would need to prevent short people breeding. Like living longer, no evolution involved in people having longer lives its a consequence of better environment and health care.

We are the underdeveloped larvae of some greater physical & spiritual being. 😒

Trying to use Darwin's Theory of Evolution to add credibility to something completely unrelated is not a new idea. You might as well invoke quantum mechanics or fluid dynamics to justify reincarnation.

Vestigial does not mean useless. It means that the organ no longer has its original use.

Darwin never proposed "Survival of the Fittest", that was philosopher Herbert Spencer. His views were called 'Social Darwinism' and precipitated several unfortunate social policies. Darwin was opposed to them. The rest is based on the supposition that there is a soul, something for which there is no evidence.

I love this eastern philosophy.

I believe in one God, the Almighty Father, Creator of Heaven and Earth and of all that's visible and invisible.

Darwin was a fool. Eastern religions are all false. Only the Bible has spiritual truth.

sure does -just consider the 3rd eye as a vestge of an eye hidden in the forehead of (certain?) reptiles ,or the importance of the colour blue from when we were fish!!

"Wrong !"" ,...

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All life is ENERGY and we are transmitting it at every moment . . . like radio frequencies . . .       OPRAH WINFREY

I believe we’re a field of ENERGY, dancing for itself . . . clusters of tetrahedrons moving around together . . .       JIM CAREY

That annoying toddler is a tornado of ENERGY . . . can someone give him some Baby Nyquil?       ME

This is what many of us like to say when describing the essence of a human being – that we are “energy”.  It is very common to describe ourselves not as the physical form which we inhabit, but as that intangible force inside.

Although it’s a belief that’s been widely quoted, it’s rarely detailed. What if we were to examine the concept using more concrete, scientific parameters? After all, many forms of energy do exist – Heat, Light, Wind, Sound, Magnetic, Nuclear – is it possible that there is a sentient or conscious type of energy, and can it be explained or proven?

THE DEFINITION OF ENERGY
A logical place to begin our analysis would be the basic definition of energy.  Energy is generally described as:

A fundamental FORCE of nature that is transferred between parts of a SYSTEM resulting in some physical change to the system and usually regarded as the capacity for doing WORK.  Energy can take a wide variety of forms.

That’s a lot of fancy words, I did get straight A’s in science eons ago then promptly forgot everything as an adult.  So let’s translate that into something simpler.  As per the definition, let’s look at examples of some type of force, powering some type of system, to make it do some type of work.

Types of Energy and their Properties

These examples seem pretty straightforward, don’t they?   Physical systems such as televisions or vacuums are powered by some kind of force like Electricity in order to do work like broadcasting shows or cleaning our floors.

APPLYING IT TO SOUL ENERGY
So how can we take that formula and apply it to ourselves, and the belief that we are energy?  Well to begin with, the human body IS a physical system.  And we DO have scientifically recognized energy sources which power it, including Chemical – which we absorb from food, water, and air (I get most of mine from chocolate) – and Heat – which we may absorb from the sun or environment.  We have the ability to move, via Kinetic Energy. Gravitational Energy also plays a part (ergo, pushup bras and facelifts).  So we can see that the physical body itself is certainly driven by all sorts of energy.

But this is not the energy or work that we refer to when we talk about ourselves in the spiritual sense.  We may be using food and water to power our movements and keep us breathing, but it seems like there is some other type of energy that causes us to think, feel, and write brilliant articles.  To give it a proper name, let’s call it Soul Energy.  If we were to chart Soul Energy in the same table, it might look like this:

Is Free Will the property of Soul Energy?

Just like the property of Kinetic Energy is motion, and the property of Thermal Energy is heat, the property of Soul Energy – if it exists – might be defined as consciousness, or Free Will.  It could be the missing link that separates a sentient being from an inanimate object.  Wind Energy can blow a rock down a mountain, Heat Energy can melt an ice glacier.  These types of energy are passive, and these types of physical systems are non-sentient.  But Soul Energy – if there is such a thing – may be the reason a sentient being can actively determine their own movements, experience emotions, and create a set of values and ethics.

THOSE WHO DISAGREE
Many people, one being Sam Harris, have argued that there is no such thing as Free Will and it is only due to genetic programming or environmental cues that we act the way we do.  In other words, like a billiard ball that might bounce off other balls and walls before it arrives at its destination on a pool table, we simply react to whatever stimulus is presented to us in a mechanical manner and arrive passively at our various milestones in life.  There is no choice according to non-believers of Free Will, anyone presented with the same set of circumstances and the same societal upbringing would exhibit the same exact behaviors.  

I don’t completely understand this argument, because in his book titled Free Will, Sam Harris does not do a convincing job explaining why criminals should not be held accountable for their crimes if they have no choice in the matter. 

Some of his ideas were interesting nonetheless and because we have not yet found a way to capture and document Soul Energy, I understand there will always be those who refuse to consider it a possibility.  But having only recently discovered Nuclear and Atomic Energy in the past 100 years, there is no telling what other types of energy may exist of which we are not yet aware.  Mankind is not omniscient, we are constantly making scientific discoveries that only decades ago were completely unknown.

THE CASE FOR FREE WILL
Even without definitive evidence or the smoking gun, sometimes there are enough clues that point us to a more likely direction.  Numerous stories of Near Death Experiences (NDEs) hint at the possibility of a consciousness existing outside of the regular chemical functions of our bodies.  Child Prodigies give glimpses into the different personalities and skills we may bring with us into the womb, perhaps from another life.  Ghosts – if they exist – may be evidence of our Soul Energy existing past the barriers of our physical forms.

But the clue most difficult to dismiss in the whole argument for Free Will is one’s own experiences.  Even the most skeptical amongst us can’t fully ignore the innate feeling that there IS something inside of us making choices on a daily basis, a process that involves wisdom, principles, and subjectivity.  When we look back at decisions such as what to eat for lunch or who to marry, many of us simply can’t believe that it was an artificial, robotic process that drove us.

Scientists can show what happens when we are in the process of making decisions in terms of synapses firing, but what is it that is causing the decision to be made in the first place?  It seems unattributable to simple biology or chemistry, especially when no two sentient beings think alike. Don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to blame my sugar addiction on my DNA, but I suspect there is more to it.

So are we powered by another type of energy, one that is not just passive Chemical and Heat?  We may never know for sure.  But it’s hard to ignore the countless circumstantial clues that hint at a driving force inside that is more sentient and unique – one that we might call Soul Energy, with the accompanying property of Free Will.

Let’s hope the future brings a day soon when we can finally capture, measure, and discover it!

Energy is Defined as a Force that does Work
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Yes, the Soul is the spirit not the physical body. The soul is the pattern and the epitome of force. Beyond physical energy that keeps the flesh alive.

As for free will this is a very difficult question. The best answer I've seen (in favor of free will) is from Immanuel Kant, which my understanding was that the only way to have free will is to make a decision before being faced with it. Once you are at that moment everything before it which led to the circumstances of making that decision will lead to a specific decisit everytime. There are some potential paradoxical loops but I think the key is that we are able to have a degree of free will but it is much more limited than we would like to imagine.

Soul IS a divine unit of spiritual energy, of consciousness. And we do have free will. That's why so many people screw up because they're not listening to the subtle messages from their divine selves, they're listening instead to the human self.

This is a quasi-scientific explanation using scientific terms mixed with more collocial ideas. "Wind energy" is kinetic energy. Trying to equate the or a soul with tangible forces is probably the wrong direction. I believe the soul exists, it is not measurable (at least not with current technology) but it is real. If you are to examine an organism the moment before and the moment after death it would be identical from a measurable manner, the difference is soul or life force or whatever word we use to inadequately describe it. I say organism instead of person as humans have created measurable definitions for death for legal and insurance purposes, but I am trying to point out something which is less than a millisecond of duration the time immediately before and after death. I think there is a good point trying to be made here, but by structuring it in a scientific manner when it is not a scientific idea (observable and repeatable) it casts a shadow on the light trying to be shined.

the human body runs on chemical and electrical energy. sorry, not sorry.

Thought is driven by chemical and electrical processes. Disrupt those processes and thought is disrupted. Remove those processes and thought ceases (death or vegetative state). Even things that are believed to be spiritually uplifting (prayer, meditation, etc) tend to stimulate chemical activity in the brain by triggering the release of various hormones or neurotransmitters.

"Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble." Albert Einstein Artwork - "The Magic of Trivial illusions" by Michael Cheval

Energy is not a force. When a force acts on an object over some distance, it does work on that object, causing it to gain energy (e.g. kinetic (motion) or potential (stored) energy). In terms of the units of measurement, therefore, energy = force x distance. Force and energy are not the same thing.

This is perfection.

Erwin Schrodinger and Max Planck were founders of Quantum Mechanics the most successful theory in the history of science. They both believed that consciousness was a fundamental part of the universe not dependent on anything else like energy, space and time.

No soul energy, science says there is no soul. Yes, we have free will, because there is no god overseeing us. Want to prove otherwise? Have your god say Hi.

"Is there such a thing as Soul Energy and Free Will?" No and yes. Next?

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I have to ask: Is that "chart" based on your ignorance about science, or your willingness to lie about science to try to validate your belief? My guess is that you are both ignorant and a liar.

I am more interested in the afterlife than my current life.  By a factor of 100 to 1.  I know that’s a bit extreme, but it’s true.

Now don’t get me wrong. I would love to improve my current life.  I have a few too many muffins in my muffin top that need to be Tae-Boed, I could floss more, save more, and spend less.  I could become a better me and be more mindful of my breathing and blinking and stuff like that.  No doubt.

But there are TWO reasons why I am exponentially more interested in what comes next – what my “life” looks like for eternity rather than just the next 30-40 years.  The reasons are:

  1. Depreciation
  2. Numbers
Calculations and Equations and Rolling Dice

Let’s begin by reviewing the first point – depreciation.  I may be expected to know this already since I’m a financial planner, but Joe the Plumber also knows that it’s better to invest more in a home – an appreciating asset – than in a car, which is a depreciating asset.  It’s considered more prudent to invest in something that will last in perpetuity over something that has a limited life span.

To me, the same goes for the body vs the soul.  The body is a depreciating asset.  Sorry to say that so bluntly, but it’s true.  Over time we go from being glorious, full blooming flowers to wilted, dried up stalks.  From battling grey hair, wrinkles, decreased energy, increased grumpiness, and the aforementioned muffin tops, it’s a downhill slide as we age.  (Don’t deny it, you know what I’m talking about, baldy!)  Of course there are those who manage to slow the aging process down and bail out enough water so that the boat still floats.  But it takes more and more effort and investment as the cracks keep widening.

On top of that, our life span is so ridiculously short compared to the incredible amount of effort we put into ourselves.  We spend a good 25 years learning to walk, talk, read, and acquire a money-earning skill, another 40 years running a race to satisfy our ever increasing needs, and then the next 20-30 years coping with dwindling health and savings.  I almost cried the day I bought my first vitamin pill box and I will be irreparably traumatized when they send me an AARP card in a few years.  (They don’t even ask, they just send it to everyone at 50.  This should be illegal!)

I mean, really, is this whole roller coaster truly worth it?  It’s utterly exhausting at times.  And then at the end of it all, this demanding, deteriorating body, with its lifelong craving for satiation of sensory pleasures – for pleasing tastes, sights, sounds, touches, and smells – at the end of this long marathon, the body simply betrays us and DIES.  How do you like that??  We spend a lifetime catering to this ungrateful, wise-ass punk of a body, and in the end it sputters out.  Just like a $500k Lamborghini with an insatiable appetite for expensive repairs, oil, maintenance, and gas will one day run out of miles and end up in the junkyard.  All that investment goes down the tubes.

I like to accumulate luxuries and go for massages and get expensive haircuts and buy iStuff just as much as the next person.  But these are temporary pleasures for a temporary body.  Whereas the same efforts and money put into a permanent home – our souls – will appreciate or grow in value over time.  What’s becoming more and more important to me is cultivating and growing my mind and spiritual awareness, assuming there is an afterlife and I get to take my portfolio with me to where I go next

That brings me to my second point – it’s a numbers game The afterlife, or eternity, is greater than my current life, another 30-50 years at most.  It’s easy math:

ETERNITY > NOW

If I knew there will be no afterlife, if the Big Bang was it and we are random miracles of nature that will simply dissipate and cease to exist one day, then sure, I’d be more interested in my current incarnation.  Of course I would.  Because then:

NOW > NOTHING AFTERWARDS

But since I lean towards the belief that there most likely is an afterlife, I put more of my efforts into advancing my soul than I do my looks, finances, or current ego.  My current incarnation with it’s current circle of friends, family, career, and pleasures is a temptation and compelling in it’s tangible, short-term gratification metrics, especially over an intangible ROI of spiritual development.  But cerebrally I know I’m only here for what seems the blink of an eye and I can’t help but worry and wonder about what comes next.

I’ll confess, being spiritually aware can be lame!  I think I used to be happier and more motivated when I was young, ignorant, and in love with my present life and worldly possessions.  Those innocent, materialistic days were awesomesauce and if I could, I might have chosen to remain in that more blissful, optimistic mindset.   (I’d sure be more fun to my friends.)

But as you get older and go through life experiences, the reality of a finite existence becomes more stark and less avoidable.  There is no going back to childhood innocence, only forward through the dark tunnel towards light and enlightenment.

And of course being a financial planner, and the daughter of a former math teacher, I can’t help but understand the following concepts:  1) the body is a depreciating asset, and 2) eternity is greater than now.  In the realm of logic and numbers, the choice becomes clear – my soul justifies the greater investment of resources.

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