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The Case For and Against Reincarnation (part 1)

I have to admit, Reincarnation scares me as much as the prospect of having to give up carbs.  It’s frightening.

Now I wouldn’t mind being reborn as a movie star or even Paris Hilton’s spoiled pooch – talk about luxury!  But if I didn’t get to choose my avatar, I think the prospect of being randomly born again is spooky.  Who knows where I’d end up?

In some ways, I do think Reincarnation may be a possibility, otherwise how would one explain the discrepancies that seem to appear in one lifetime between the haves and the have nots?  Between the refugee and the billionaire? Between the healthy and the disabled?  Between a dying child and a 100 year old smoker?

Karma doesn’t seem to right itself in just one lifetime.  If it did, a certain orange narcissist would choke on his fast food.  So if there is a planned design to the universe, then it makes sense that Reincarnation would be part of that design and help smooth out these imbalances over time.

On the other hand, I often doubt its existence at all.  As logical a system as Reincarnation might seem for checks and balances amongst souls, it doesn’t seem to quite execute in a way that follows that same logic.  In other words, the idea of Reincarnation makes sense to me, but if I look around, our daily world seems to be a stark contradiction of it.  There are a few major reasons for my confusion:

1) Population Growth – the concept of Reincarnation, at least as explained by some Eastern religions, posits the idea that the soul has to go through a chain of plant and animal life forms before it can reach the human form, where it has its one chance to progress spiritually and achieve moksha (liberation from the cycle of rebirth). If the goal is not achieved, then the soul is sent back down the chain to start the climb again, from amoeba – to tumbleweed – to snake – to Joe the Plumber. Perhaps not all the way from the beginning, but from a point that reflects the spiritual wisdom it has attained and the good or bad karma it has earned. 

Hinduism puts estimates at 8.4 million life forms that need to be traversed before one finally reaches its human avatar. The human stage is said to be the main platform where a soul gets to further its spiritual progress due to its new ability to think beyond basic animal instincts. Human birth is considered the pinnacle of the earthly chain of Reincarnation and therefore the most precious and important life form we can achieve.

Reincarnation Hierarchy

If this were true, then how is it that the homo sapien population is increasing over time?  Instead our numbers should go up or down every year, i.e. sometimes there would be more of us and sometimes less, depending on how many souls happen to be passing through the top of the chain before falling back down again.  Why is the number simply going in one direction?

With billions of additional humans coming into the world every few decades, it implies new souls are being injected into the system – which doesn’t really make sense.  What are they doing in the meantime, waiting somewhere on a cosmic playground for their turn on the slide into our world?  The increasing population number seems to contradict the premise of Reincarnation.

2) Extinction – Similarly, the fact that certain species have gone extinct – dinosaurs, Tasmanian tigers, bipartisan politicians – doesn’t make sense either within a system of Reincarnation.  If each of us has to experience the same test as other souls – perhaps modified by our own good or bad karma points and earned trajectory – but still similar in structure – why would certain species, or tests go missing?  Shouldn’t all of us be going through the same life forms in order to experience the same challenges? 

Of course if one wanted to, one could conveniently theorize that the test remains the same no matter which life form we take on, and it doesn’t matter whether we’re a dinosaur or platypus, we still have to learn to pee in the forest.  But to me it seems that a Reincarnation exam room such as the world would be designed a little more consistently if an SST – Standardized Soul Test – was the goal.

Reincarnation Hierarchy

3)  Dying Young – A third contradiction I find is the death of children and babies.  I understand the possibility that certain life forms may be cut short because the work they were assigned is complete.  But if the human avatar is our most important one for intellectual and emotional growth, then what sense does it make for a baby to die after just a few days in the hospital intensive care?  What kind of spiritual growth could the poor thing have possibly attained in that blip of time?  If it had any bad karma to work off, the soul could have done it in another way, it seems vastly inefficient to be born human and leave so quickly.

4)  Endless cycle of Karma – And lastly, I don’t understand why a system was designed to almost force us to repeat our mistakes.  We supposedly take our spiritual growth with us as we progress through our journey, but there seems to be too much opportunity for us to generate more bad Karma for ourselves.  Because even if we bring some wisdom with us, surely we have to make SOME mistakes in our next human or sentient life in order to acquire new knowledge and wisdom?  We are not allowed to remember exactly what we did wrong in past lives, so it’s almost like a harried, hopeless hopscotch where we might take two steps back in order to move one step forward. (I was never good at hopscotch – butterscotch is more my thing.)

Why not just give us one lifetime in which to build upon our knowledge and experience and rid ourselves of any bad Karma in one efficient run?  Why create an inefficient, mysterious, complicated system like Reincarnation when there could be so many simpler paths instead?

I know there may be elaborate or far-fetched rebuttals that could be made to defend  these  contradictions.  There is no end to being able to confirm one’s own bias or blind faith if that is the goal.  But while I am always open to all conjectures, these specific points seem to greatly discredit Reincarnation and instead give support to Science and Evolution.

On the other hand, true to my wishy-washy agnostic nature, I do think there are other compelling arguments that could be made in favor of continual rebirth.  And not all of them are spiritual or theist in nature.  I’ll be sharing those counterpoints in my next posting.  

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We are Soul, divine units of consciousness. Atoms of God, in a sense, with the attributes of God within us. Our purpose, over our many lifetimes, is to recognize and manifest these God like qualities so that we can achieve God realization which is our destiny. Jesus did this. We are the "fallen angels" referred to in the bible. God created all the universes and tossed us down here to learn our lessons. We quite often started out in a plant or animal body, learning lessons in these bodies, although at a lower consciousness level than human. Then we move up to human bodies where we begin the purification process in earnest, struggling and suffering through many many lifetimes. We go to one of the lower heavens between lifetimes. These heavens are not of this physical plane but on adjacent parallel dimensions. Because we don't occupy these planes in our physical bodies.

it get s funnier each time a religious post comes on my feed ! If I'd said half of this I'd be put in a sanatorium!

There is no evidence of any supernatural or spiritual being. There is plenty evidence that primitive men who did not understand the world around them made this shit up. So sad that people still believe this crap and ignore the overwhelming science and history that show their stories to be bullshit.

No. Our kind of spirit only ever incarnates as human.

If you read in depth SCIENTIFIC review of bang theory you will understand the tremendous odds of creating ANY life. Therefore is it more rational to think the billion to one odd of male female zygote finding each other or a Devine being created us? Most people will not read a deep scientific analysis. They go for the synopsis. Chaotic evolution statistics can not possibly be true. There are many scientists who favor creation but grants are non existent to these men and women. True the is not lucrative. You can see this in the current gender debate. Scientificly there are two sexes anything else is a mental choice. The human form is in a three month embryo and it feels pain. There are many other scientific truths but we must READ, DIG, and cross check .

Just started your book. Very much enjoying it.

And she's buying a stairway to heaven...

There always seems to be one more rung of the ladder of success.

False prophets. There is no reincarnation. There are no different orbits. I know truth. I am happy to share it with others FOR FREE! Even to false prophets like yourself.

So, is the Sun Hell?

The Brothers Grimm had some pretty cool fairy tales too.

Read God Speaks by MeherBaba ,a book the biography of the soul from Nothing to Everything.

Thank god i'm an athiest

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psycho..😱🤡

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  1. Vinod says

    You are ridiculous! Ridiculously filled with logic, and a wicked sense of humor. Another gem!

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