Agnostic

Many theists are kind, compassionate people who live up to their religious beliefs and embody that which they preach.  They appear genuine in their intentions and convictions.  Their hallelujas don’t sound so phony.

Then there are the other, more questionable kinds.  Of which there are aplenty as well, unfortunately.

Of course the most notorious type of aberrant theist is one that has been present for centuries – the extremist who twists religion for their own convenience and commits unspeakable acts of horror in God’s name.  This refers not only to the terrorists we have seen in recent times, but to kings, tribes, and empires from centuries before, who would engage in holy wars or witch-hunts to persecute those who wouldn’t conform.  (My blog and I would have been burned at the stake.)

We are also familiar with the religious leader or priest who takes advantage of their respected position to abuse those who look upto them, either intimately or monetarily.

Another type we all know about is the superficial or showy theist, the one who acts devoted on the surface, who may perform loud and exaggerated rituals in the temple, or make a big show of donating money or volunteering, but is known to be arrogant or selfish by those surrounding them.  I’ve personally seen numerous “devout” people in my community act pious publicly, then treat their household help (common in my ancestral country) with callousness and even cruelty.  Bollywood movies are filled with depictions of these real-life villains.

These are some of the more commonly known religious divergents.  However, there are other kinds of theists I have noticed who are not so extreme or contradictory in their behavior, but still cause me to immaturely snort whenever I encounter them.

Devilish looking nun

The Self-Improvement Theist

There is no doubt that saving one’s own soul or increasing one’s own happiness is a very important reason to pursue spiritual knowledge.  Oftentimes that is how the quest begins.  One experiences episodes of depression or disillusionment, and is driven to either buy a mid-life Ferrari, or search for the meaning of life and a reason for all the suffering that is being endured.  Other times a spiritual awakening can result from a loved one’s death or a mass tragedy that occurs in the world.  The search for self-fulfillment is a common start to many spiritual journeys.

While self-help is indeed a valid first step towards enlightenment, if a true awakening has taken place, the seeker soon enough comes to realize that the self and ego are a temporary, illusory blip in the universe.  They begin to see past their own souls to the many suffering and kindred souls that surround them.  They start to see themselves in others, understanding that everyone shares the same dreams, hopes, and fears.  They realize that their friends could be strangers in a next life, and vice-versa.  They may feel a growing attachment towards no one, yet everyone at the same time.  The candle of compassion and love is lit.

This is what happens when a seeker is truly moving along the path to enlightenment.  But I believe there are those who start up the path, and then never get past the barrier of their own ego and happiness.  They are simply pursuing a spiritual path to earn cosmic brownie points for themselves.  When this person describes practices like meditating, it is always in the context of helping their own peace of mind and to improve their own focus.  They will rarely talk about meditating for greater spiritual awakening in general.

This is not to say that the person isn’t kind or generous at all.  Rarely is anything black or white.  They may have been reasonably nice souls already, before turning to spirituality.  But their spiritual journey has not nudged them further along in this regard.  They may become better at focusing and breathing and beating shamanic drums (SNORT! I actually have a weird friend that does this.)  They may become more mindful of the moment and their actions.  But their progress is more along the lines of self-improvement of their worldly avatar and ego, rather than increased wisdom or compassion coming from their soul.

The Closet Agnostic

This particular type of theist is the one that confuses me the most.  Some of my friends who fall into this category have tried to explain their thinking, but I still don’t get it.  I try not to snort.  But here is what puzzles me:  people who claim to be 110% sure that there is a God, or who claim to have had a mystical, holy experience, and yet return to their daily grind in the same way as before.

For example, many devout theists claim that they are able to reach a state of ultimate bliss during their meditations, one where they feel they have gone through something akin to an out-of-body experience.  They ecstatically describe a celestial-like plane where they were able to experience a sublime tingling, or blinding love, or flying doves, or some such extraordinary occurrence.  After going through these experiences, they often claim to have not even a sliver of doubt about the existence of God.  Yet if you look at their everyday reality, aside from obvious religious rituals such as meditation or prayer or attending church, their time consists of the same old anxiety, petty worries, and material goals which plague the rest of us.  They continue to deal with car repairs, dog poop, bills, work, dishes, and their own fluctuating moods and levels of happiness.

What I don’t understand is that if one has truly seen or connected with a magnificent energy that transcends our current lifeform, or if one is utterly convinced of there being a higher power, wouldn’t that reflect in a person’s everyday actions?  I’m an agnostic, so I don’t claim to have experienced any such wonders.  But I have always felt that if I WERE to come into contact with proof of God, or the supernatural, it would change me forever.  I could never be the same.  I would never be able to slide back to my mundane routine and goals.  I would be compelled to find a way to return again and again to the blissful state that I now know exists.

I have a hard time buying that true believers – who claim to have no doubt at all of a God – can act the way they do.  I mean think about it – if God were to come to Earth tomorrow, and give us a miraculous display of proof that he exists – perhaps by simply speaking to us or giving us calorie-free dessert – do you think any of us would really return to running the everyday rat race?  I wouldn’t.  I’d know that there IS something better or more permanent after this life.  I’d be more interested in learning about it, and readying my soul for eternity, than going back to spending years on a job treadmill to pay my 30 year mortgage.

To test my theory, I probed one of my most religious, hallelujah-type friends as to the source behind his often contradictory actions.  He is quite devout in nature – he prays before every meal, meditates, fasts, attends the temple weekly, celebrates all the religious festivals, and generously gives of his time to others.  He has even talked about becoming a monk.  However, he also has many vices that seem to negate much of that.  When I questioned him on the inconsistencies, we argued for hours.

At first, he adamantly refused to admit to any hypocrisy despite my gentle prodding.  Then, when I channeled my inner Bill Maher and aggressively pointed out some of his highly questionable habits, he eventually confessed that he did have some doubts – deep down inside – which could cause his actions to waver at times.  He finally agreed that if he truly and completely believed in a God, he would have already renounced everything by now and become a monk, because he would know that there was a salvation he could truly strive for.

His confession was not a total shock to me, even though I was a bit surprised that I finally got it out of him.  Even Mother Theresa had doubts and SHE lived such a pious life.  If someone truly had ZERO doubts, one would expect them to model a rather saintly life, not one which includes cheating on taxes and the occasional hangover.

I only conducted that one test case, because it was exhausting to fully extract an honest answer.  And it may have weakened our friendship.  But it only strengthened my suspicion that many avowed theists are actually closet agnostics, whether they acknowledge it or not.  At the risk of getting hate mail and death threats, I’d bet that a MAJORITY of theists have tiny kernels of doubts, buried somewhere deep inside.

It’s actually disappointing for me to think this, because I would have loved to believe otherwise.  It would give me hope that perhaps there is some otherworldly experience certain people have had, and that maybe I just haven’t had mine yet.  But to-date, I haven’t been able to tell the difference between atheists, theists, or agnostics in terms of personality, ethics, and behavior.  Atheists constantly tell us that morality is not just the domain of those who believe in a God, and from my experiences over the past 50 years, I have found this to be absolutely true.

So I remain an agnostic, not yet convinced by the theists I see around me that they have any special insights or access to a wisdom or energy that I don’t.  But I promise you this – if I ever become convinced of a superior being or state, you’ll see matching evidence of it in my actions.  I’ll be the one at the ashram, renouncing all of my worldly possessions – my iStuff, and my McThings, but most especially, my dishes and bills!

I’m so jealous of those who believe in God.  So very, very jealous.  I know I’m breaking a commandment by being jealous – which I guess doesn’t really matter since I don’t believe in the ten commandments – but I am jealous of those who do. 

I want to be like them.  I want to be able to snore peacefully at night, cozily ensconced in the security of a benevolent God that is looking out for my well-being.  How nice to be able to pray fervently when my plane hits turbulence and I’m bouncing up and down trying not to vomit.  Instead I must count sheep or pop some Xanax.

I desperately want to believe that there is a point to all of this, that the suffering and inhumanity I am surrounded with daily is not in vain.  I would not need anger management therapy if I could believe that a certain orange politician with a white home will get hit with karma one day.

Theistic, Atheistic, Agnostic Revolving Signpost

I want to know that there is a happy fairy tale ending for all of us when we’re done.  I want to go to a place where everyone knows my name and they’re always glad I came.  I’ll pass on the 72 virgins, but the harps and honey sound nice.

I’m so jealous of Theists and the comfort of their faith.

I’m also jealous of Atheists.  I’m jealous of the ones who are certain that there is no God and are free to enjoy life in the moment, in its fullest glory.  Not that the rest of us cannot, but there is a certain liberation that comes from not worrying about an afterlife or a better place and being able to just concentrate on the here and now.  I wish I knew with thundering certainty that there is no higher power or planned design, and that all the chaos in this world was just that – random chaos.

If I could be a pure Atheist, one of the first things I would do is give my poor, fatigued brain a rest and run wild and naked in the sun, or pursue other such sensory pleasures.  (Yes, I know this is not what Atheists do, they can be very restrained and moral people, but I can’t help but visualize wanton stripper parties when thinking of them.)

If I were an Atheist, I would stop reading and thinking so much and simply BE.  As you can see from this article, I philosophize and write alot, and boy, does it get tiring at times!  My mind could use a break.  I imagine I would still be sad at seeing the atrocities surrounding me in the world, but I would be able to take it much more in stride as a random lottery of life and making the most of the cards that I have been dealt.  Rather than feel frantic at the thought of possibly being reincarnated into a tortured, caged chicken like the one I ate for lunch, I might simply shrug off meat-eating as part of a food chain at which I sit on the top. 

I know I should be able to be and do whatever I want, regardless of my beliefs or lack thereof.  I should eat vegetarian out of compassion rather than fear of negative karma.  I should be able to feel secure and comforted and also liberated and light like Theists and Atheists if I truly wanted to.  Happiness is in the mind and all that jazz.

But as an Agnostic, I’ll admit that I am in a constant state of turmoil.  I’m not confused to the point that I can’t function on a daily basis.  I’m highly productive and goal oriented for the most part and on the surface I look like any normal human being.  However my actions and motivation are always colored by a dollop of doubt as to the reason for my existence.  

Because we do not have the comfort and faith of a Theist or the certainty and liberation of an Atheist, we Agnostics are stuck somewhere in no man’s land, unsure of what to believe.  Many label us “confused” or too chicken to commit to a stance.  They accuse us of taking the easy way out by not choosing a “team”.  I think WE are the sane and logical ones, it’s the Theists and Atheists who seem a bit crazy to me, being sure of something that no one can really prove either way.  How can you be so strong in a particular belief and then condemn the other side for being so sure of their belief, when neither of you has proof?

I think the most sensible thing is to be an Agnostic.  It’s also the most turbulent and draining.  Peace of mind can often be elusive as my needle swings back and forth between the two extremes.  I wish I could pick a side, but my sense of logic and skepticism dictate otherwise.  There is no doubt, being an Agnostic stinks!   But I have no choice.

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An agnostic wants proof of a God before they believe. But believing in God involves blind faith, you take the leap of faith and then God proves he exists.

When it comes to religion, the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence.

The prayer of an Agnostic. Oh my God , if there is a God Save my soul , if I have a soul .

What is belief? The proposition that rumour or imagination is evidence? I prefer delusional or non delusional. I describe myself as gnostic. That just means having knowledge. It doesn't mean knowing everything. New shit always comes to light.

You say you are putting "3 chips on god", but which god are you choosing? I've heard estimates that there are over 10,000 different gods in the history of the world. Placing bets on every one of them would be impossible.

I don't just believe in the afterlife I know it's real, I've been given so many glimpses of spirit and angels that I no longer just believe it because I've been shown the proof.

The many Gods is the real confusion when God is one and only one.we created n no.of Gods Where as the lone God created every thing in creation.

Atheism or theism is binary...you either believe or not. A do not know is still a non belief and therefore still atheist.

Stephen Hawking gived demonstration that a creator god do not exist, with only the logic it is possible demonstrated that the god of Judaism/Christianity/Islam do not exist

Atheists are all agnostic. (...theists are, too. ..). 🙂 Nobody *knows*. Gnosticism is about knowledge. .. ... not belief.

I would like to hallelujah but I prefer to say brollox.

Having been dead, I can tell you there IS SOME ENERGY!

Agnostic...atheist...tomato tomoto. 😉

Religion is just a bunch of weirdos in robes that all worship their invisible friend called $$$$$$$🤣

I am all three: atheist, theist, and agnostic. That way I can't go too wrong. 😉 Seriously, though, I am a unitheist. This means that I think ("believe" is too strong a word) and feel that we are a self-creative, self-generative, self-transformative or self-godly universe. Energy, the basic substance of which everything consists, has been scientifically proven to be forever. Only the forms of Energy change; Energy itself is forever. So far, no supernatural changer, mover, or transformer of Energy has been detected by science, but there is some tentative evidence that Energy itself is self-transformative. So where dose this leave us and our beliefs? "Atheism in the name of God," this is how Allan Watts termed this kind of belief. I prefer to call it "unitheism." I feel and think that we are a unified universe, and that unitive love keeps the unitive universe unified. (Uni was the chief goddess of the Etruscan pantheon. I sometimes say that I believe in Uni.) 🙂

there is no god

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